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Post by Gaffnoid on Jan 17, 2004 12:18:19 GMT -5
John Edwards should be the man in 2004.
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Post by Redneck on Jan 17, 2004 12:27:05 GMT -5
And Micheal Jackson should be a Cub Scout leader.
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Post by Hometowngirl on Jan 17, 2004 16:18:32 GMT -5
Thus far I have seen/heard nothing to covince me that I should not vote for Pres. Bush. The " I likes" column far out number the " I don't likes" column. So I am still reading, and listening and watching and unless something reaaalllyyyyy bad comes down the pike I will be voting republican. I think that John Edwards is a nice, well spoken gentleman who at this point I do not know a lot about. What he is for and what he is against, I think maybe I will have to go look up some info on him. I also think that Kerry has pretty much stayed true to his course at least to date, He however does little for me in the Charisma department. Kind of *bland* unlike Dean, who surprises me with his "attack" style. I guess the day they held * bedside manner 101" in Medical school he played hookey. I have to say that anyone who is against making the illegal aliens legal has a leg up with me. I think Bush is shooting himself in the foot with that one. That also doubles if you throw NAFTA in there. Don't like it and think it should be totally stopped.
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Post by CDB on Jan 20, 2004 19:09:32 GMT -5
I heard a friend of Howard Dean’s say that what the press took for anger on Mr. Dean’s part was just passion.
If what I’ve seen out of him is passion I’d sure hate to see the Doctor really mad. He chewed a guy out on TV the other night for asking him a question he didn’t like.
What if he became president and some reporter asked him a derogatory question about one of his proposals. What would he do, have the Secret Service take the poor guy out back of the White House and shoot him?
OK, that’s pretty preposterous. But when you stop and think about it anger begets vindictiveness and revenge, and those emotions can drive us to do some crazy things.
You can look at Howard Dean’s countenance and see his anger. The way his eyes blaze and the way his mouth stays tight all the time.
And his policies are dangerous. He would just pull the troops out of Iraq because he thinks we shouldn’t have gone to war with them at all.
If he liked things the way they were before we had the war in Iraq does that mean that he would restore Saddam Hussein to power?
And he would stop the tax cuts when the economy is just starting to cook after the catastrophe of 9 -11. It’s easy to take money away from one person and give it to another but is that a good way to approach the economy? Isn’t that called redistribution of wealth?
Most of you who have known me for any length of time know what I think of the Clintons. But I’ll tell you that Bill Clinton looks like Abraham Lincoln when compared with Howard Dean.
I know very little about Mr. Dean except that he was Governor of Vermont and what I’ve seen of him on television and what I see I don’t really like.
This is not the kind of man who I want to see with the codes to the nuclear football.
People do some pretty far out things under the influence of anger and I fully believe that Howard Dean is not only angry but also that he could possibly be capable of just losing it and going out of control. He almost trembles when he gets upset.
Mr. Dean made quite a few statements years ago which he now has to face and does so with some pretty inane answers. I still don’t quite know where he stands on religion.
Now don’t get me wrong, I hope the Democrats do run Mr. Dean. I believe when he is faced with the hardball questions of a Presidential debate that he is apt to come apart and stand there red faced shouting at somebody.
If he’s the best the Democrats have got to offer, they’d better go back to the drawing board.
Mr. Dean needs to control his temper, but even if he does, we’ll know that it’s still there smoldering just under the surface.
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Post by Hometowngirl on Jan 20, 2004 19:32:31 GMT -5
This I believe is where Mr. Dean stands on religion. I agree with you I would not want to see him in the white house
QUOTE: "We went for years in the Democratic Party without recognizing God, and we pay a price for that," said Al From, chairman of the Democratic Leadership Council, a centrist Democratic group.
Highlighting the urgency of the issue for Democrats, a random survey of 1,997 registered voters released this fall by the Pew Research Center found that 63 percent of voters who attended religious services more than once a week said they planned to vote for Mr. Bush next year. That compared with 37 percent who said they preferred a Democratic candidate. The margin is narrower among the larger group of voters who attend church once a week, with 56 percent planning to vote for Mr. Bush and 44 percent planning to vote for a Democrat.
For months now, several of the nine Democratic contenders for the presidency have been wrestling with how to capture a significant sliver of that vote without alienating secular party loyalists. Most of the Democrats typically shy from overt references to the Bible, God or prayer — unless they are visiting churches — in favor of emphasizing values and the importance of family. They delicately pepper their speeches with such wording. (Mr. Gephardt, for instance, rarely fails to mention that he has been married for 37 years.)
Republican strategists scoff at such efforts, saying Democrats will never make inroads among religious voters if they support abortion and oppose organized school prayer.
"They may be taking a first step in talking in a different way," said Jim d**e
, a spokesman for the Republican National Committee. "But until they can come around to adopt the policies that fit mainstream America, their rhetoric will only go so far."
Even candidates who advocate the approach are uncertain as to whether the efforts will translate into significant numbers of votes.
But some Democrats argue that even tentative steps in this direction might make a difference in a tight election. END QUOTE:
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Post by Redneck on Jan 20, 2004 21:53:41 GMT -5
Personally, I just cant see anyone being a democrat, and then call him/her self a christian. I am by no means perfect, no one is. But I like to think I have good morals. The Dems. are for abortion on demand, f*g
s in the military, not to mention pushing for "gay marriage", taking the ten commanments out of sight of everyone, backing the ACLU, and the list goes on. IMHO, anytime you see a liberal in a church, it is just a photo op. Like the old saying," you can fool some of the people........", well there is one man who cant be fooled, and he will have the final say when the baby killers, perverts and the like receive their judgement.... BTW, I didnt say that, the bible does.
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Post by troll on Jan 20, 2004 22:16:43 GMT -5
Kerry
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Post by Redneck on Jan 20, 2004 22:23:29 GMT -5
Another one bites the dust......ST. LOUIS -- Duck Gephardt, the former House Democratic leader and 14-term congressman from Missouri, made his withdrawal from the 2004 presidential race official Tuesday after a disappointing fourth-place finish in the Iowa caucuses. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by Gaffnoid on Jan 22, 2004 23:14:48 GMT -5
Anyone watch the New Hampshire debate tonight?
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Post by Bill on Jan 23, 2004 12:24:58 GMT -5
REDNECK, How can you call yourself a christian (regardless of political party) and hate so many people? While you're holding that Bible up as a shield, open up the cover and check out what it says about that dude! Democrats have opinions (and they're JUST as entitled to them as you) as well as religious beliefs, families, all the things that concern you...we got too! I had a moderate amount of respect for you and your opinions until that last post. To state that someone can't be a Democrat and a christian is just a bit too far pal. Guess the other post (that i agreed with) was just typical Republican rhetoric (which is the modern term for BS, backed up by nothing but a bad smell). But then again, they weren't even your words...just plagarism. You're a bigot dude. Plain and simple. And your statement just proves to me where your head is really at....a bit too far past your sphincter!
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Post by Redneck on Jan 23, 2004 17:29:38 GMT -5
WOW! They say the truth hurts. They must be right. Me a bigot huh? Well, I am a straight Southern ,white ,politically incorrect ,male, so according to the media and the likes of Jesse Jack@$$, yeah, I am a bigot. Someone having no respect for me does not change the way think. Therefore, I stand by what I said. Have a nice day , and make someone smile. ;D
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Post by JavaMom38 on Jan 23, 2004 21:52:42 GMT -5
I've never heard redneck say he hated anyone
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Post by Gaffnoid on Jan 23, 2004 23:53:01 GMT -5
The more we watched him, the more we read his speeches and studied his positions, the more we saw him comport himself in debate, the more we learned about his life story, the more our editorial board came to conclude he's a cut above the others. -- Des Moines Register, 1/11/04 Be open minded. Just check him out for yourselves and decide. www.johnedwards2004.com
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Post by Gaffnoid on Jan 24, 2004 0:15:44 GMT -5
Statement Of Senator John Edwards On Appointment Of Charles Pickering Senator John Edwards (D-NC) today released the following statement on President Bush's recess appointment of Judge Charles Pickering:
"I questioned Judge Pickering at his hearing, I reviewed his record, and I know Charles Pickering does not belong on the U.S. Court of Appeals. This is a judge who regularly put his personal views above the law in civil rights cases, a judge who violated judicial ethics in order to secure a lower sentence for someone who burned a cross on the lawn of an interracial couple.
"Coming just before Martin Luther King Day, President Bush's appointment of Judge Pickering is an insult to everyone who believes in equal justice and a stark reminder why we need a new President committed to appointing judges who will enforce our civil rights laws."
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Post by jimmbo on Jan 24, 2004 11:46:29 GMT -5
In other words give the rest of the country away to minorities and foreinors.
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